Sammy's Study Log

These study logs seem pretty fun and a good way to track progress. I will detail my learning progress, my goals, my challenges, and anything else that may come up :slight_smile:

I have been wanting to travel to China for basically my whole life; I always wanted to take the plunge and start learning Mandarin, but I never found the motivation and time to do so. I had actually been pretty deep in my Spanish studies the past few years, and that has been going really well! I live in an area with a lot of Spanish speakers and basically no Mandarin speakers, so the resources available for me to learn Spanish are just much, much higher. My Spanish is actually at a pretty good place right now, and I would still be studying it further if I didn’t just get completely addicted to learning Chinese.

Around late May, I saw a Facebook post from a girl from China offering Mandarin tutoring lessons, and I thought, what better time to start learning than now! I sent her a message and set up weekly lessons starting in mid-June. At this point, I have absolutely zero experience with Chinese and Mandarin. I knew some concepts; I knew it was a tonal language and vaguely knew what that meant, and I also knew this was going to be a completely different learning experience compared to Spanish. I decided to dive into some self-study, having absolutely no idea where to start, overwhelmed by the concepts of tones, characters, pronunciations. Spanish was easy because I was already starting with a basis of some knowledge of the language, knowing some words, and being around the language a lot; it was easy to dive into some comprehensible input with Spanish and immerse myself in the language. Chinese, on the other hand, is going to take some extra hand-holding.

I started where I had read was the best place to start, which is with pinyin and pronunciation. For about a week, a couple of hours a day, I would go through a pinyin chart and practice saying each sound and each tone (this would end up paying off greatly for my pronunciation!), getting better at reading pinyin and making all the sounds! After this week, I thought it was probably a good time as ever to start diving into learning actual sentences, vocab, characters, basically the entire language lol.

It was around this time, at the beginning of June, that I discovered HanziHero, which has completely changed how I study vocab! I had known that I should be looking into spaced repetition, and that, despite flashcards not being useful for my Spanish learning, it would probably be required for Chinese. I messed around with Anki for a little bit, but HanziHero is just too convenient, not to mention the premade mnemonics for everything! It has quickly become my favorite part of my Chinese studying! In terms of all the resources used at this time, it’s mostly been Du Chinese, Little Fox, HanziHero, and my weekly textbook and tutor study.

We’re at about 3 months since I started learning Chinese, starting from complete zero. I just finished my HSK1 textbook last week and will be starting HSK2 very soon. In HanziHero, I am already nearly done with all of the characters from HSK2 and don’t plan on slowing down! My reading skills and character recognition are improving very steadily; basically, I can recognize all of the HSK1 characters without having to use the mnemonic at all. In terms of my plans moving forward, I will continue to use all the same resources I do now, but now that I feel I have a really good framework of vocabulary under my belt, I am going to be increasing the comprehensible input I consume by a lot. I will be filling my day with as much passive and active listening as I can, really internalizing the sound and flow of Mandarin.

My current goal is to be at HSK 4 level by next summer when I plan to travel to China! My main focus in Chinese is on reading and conversational skills (not writing yet, though maybe eventually if I want to actually get HSK certified!). It is my goal that I can handle myself while I’m in China and be able to converse with people without the use of a translator app at all. It feels a bit ambitious, but I also certainly feel it’s doable and feel that my pace is good! Language learning is, of course, not one linear path, with lots of ups and downs, good days and bad days, but considering where I was just a few months ago to now, I have high belief in myself!

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Awesome progress! I look forward to following along :slight_smile:

(Thanks for the kind words about HanziHero!)

We should improve the pinyin chart in HanziHero :thinking: the main thing lacking is access to the audio, right? Though when it comes to practicing like you had in mind, perhaps the audio would be lacking in nuance since they’re generated

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I will always sing HanziHero’s praises! Not to mention the UI looks incredibly clean as well!

The Pinyin chart is a great tool, especially for those who are just starting their journey, so it definitely could be worth some effort to improve the chart on here. Definitely the main thing that is missing is the audio for all of the tones. Yoyo Chinese has a really good pinyin chart with native speaker pronunciations and even some quick video tutorials on those most difficult sounds to make. I think it really depends on what your vision and goals are for HanziHero if it’s worth putting effort into the Pinyin chart. Is HanziHero an all-in-one place for all things Chinese language learning, or is it a place for learning and studying characters and vocabulary? Your Pinyin chart is interesting as well because the sounds line up with the sound components used in HanziHero as opposed to following just the standard initials and finals. Personally, I feel that makes the chart a bit too big and cumbersome to scroll through compared to others out there that just use the standard initials and finals, but I can also see the argument that this Pinyin chart is more tailored towards the HanziHero curriculum, meaning it stands out from other Pinyin chart resources.

Just some of my thoughts I figured I’d throw out there :head_shaking_vertically:

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Great point! I forgot about the standard way pinyin charts are created vs our system. And you’re right, ultimately we’re focused on characters and vocabulary :slight_smile: perhaps we can still attach audio should time permit

If you ever have other ideas on how to make this site better suit your studying, let me know!

In any case, HSK-4 by next Summer sounds like a great bar to set. I look forward to hearing about your travels to China when they come to pass!

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Oh I will for sure be updating when my trip happens!

It’s probably been requested before, but my main request for a feature would be translating the other way, AKA instead of reading the Chinese character(s) and typing in the English translation, you would read an English word or phrase and translate it into Chinese. HanziHero is amazing for recognition, but for practicing recall, I find myself looking towards other resources. It could be an extra mode that is separate from reviews and lessons; you could choose to do characters or words or both from your entire pool of learned stuff or from a certain HSK level, something like that! Some difficulties I see with this feature, though, are how words that have multiple translations would work. Like, if, for example, the English word was “self,” would the correct answer be 自 or 己 or 自己? Maybe you would only allow a words mode and a characters mode, but there would still be duplicates. I haven’t thought it all the way through, but it was something I figured I’d throw out there, as I find it very important. This sort of practice would help transition from thinking in English to thinking in Chinese!

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It’s a good study mode! Figuring out a way to make it easy to select which part of your review pool you want to review will be the interesting puzzle to work out :slight_smile:

I think some sort of general “Custom Study” which supports all of these other study mode suggestions would be pretty neat. Thanks for the feedback!