# Correction for 工？

**URL:** <https://community.hanzihero.com/t/correction-for/187>\
**Category:** Bugs & Errors\
**Created:** [November 7, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.hanzihero.com/t/correction-for/187 "2023-11-07T15:01:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Learneratheart](https://community-cdn.hanzihero.com/user_avatar/community.hanzihero.com/learneratheart/32/129_2.png) [@Learneratheart](https://community.hanzihero.com/u/Learneratheart)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.hanzihero.com/t/correction-for/187/1 "2023-11-07T15:01:52Z")

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The mnemonic used is Goofy (gu-) and English Manor (-eng), but that’s gueng, not gong.

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**Author:** ![kevin](https://community-cdn.hanzihero.com/user_avatar/community.hanzihero.com/kevin/32/68_2.png) [@kevin](https://community.hanzihero.com/u/kevin)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.hanzihero.com/t/correction-for/187/2 "2023-11-07T16:24:11Z")

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Hey @Learneratheart, thanks for reaching out!

In our [slightly modified pinyin system](https://hanzihero.com/docs/standard-pinyin-differences), **gu-** and **-eng** do indeed combine to form **gong**. I agree that this could be made more clear for new users, as it does seem like they should form gueng instead (which incidentally is not valid pinyin)! We should add an introductory tour for this somewhere. We do have plans on making a Pinyin chart that would perhaps also make this more clear.

If you are interested in the exact reason why gu- and -eng combine to form gong, here is a quick explanation:

In Standard Pinyin, **gong** is represented as:

> g- + -ong

“-ong” is in fact the combination of the `-(e)ng` final with the `-u-` medial. So in reality it is:

> g- + -u- + -(e)ng

In our system, the -u- medial is added to the g- initial, without relying on a separate `-ong` final.

> gu- + -(e)ng

So in short:

> gong = gu- + -(e)ng (our system)  
> gong = g- + -ong (Standard Pinyin)  
> gong = g- + -u- + -(e)ng (explicitly showing the medial at play)

I hope that helps! Let me know if you have any more questions, or if there is anything we can do to make things more clear. Standard Pinyin and our own slightly modified version of it all have their own quirks, unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![Learneratheart](https://community-cdn.hanzihero.com/user_avatar/community.hanzihero.com/learneratheart/32/129_2.png) [@Learneratheart](https://community.hanzihero.com/u/Learneratheart)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.hanzihero.com/t/correction-for/187/3 "2023-11-07T18:12:45Z")

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This was really clear. Thanks for the breakdown! 😃

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**Author:** ![kevin](https://community-cdn.hanzihero.com/user_avatar/community.hanzihero.com/kevin/32/68_2.png) [@kevin](https://community.hanzihero.com/u/kevin)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.hanzihero.com/t/correction-for/187/4 "2023-11-25T12:33:12Z")

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